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daver Posted: 29-Sep-04 13:21
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Ok Guys I just got back from Vegas where I tryed out Serenas's Bac Method. The whole book is 92 pages. Very easy to understand. I only tryed out the simplest method. I only played at the $5 level for testing. I played 7 shoes and I was up about $400 after comissions.
You only need 10 units to sit down and play her way! She recomends another 10 to 15 units as backup. I just went for 10 units in a shoe and then quit on my 1st loss after that. Very small bankroll to profit ratio. I lost 10 units only 1 shoe out of 7. I did not use backup in that shoe. Why stick with a loser when winning tables with reader boards are all around me. I just had to look for a very common pattern and just sit down and make or lose 10 units.Low stress.Serena called me while I was at the Casino just to check on how I was doing. When she told me she had added many more helpful explainations in her book I quit playing Bac for the rest of the trip and went to craps. I just read her new additions and am going back to Vegas to play next week. Bottom line..I made a profit over what I paid for her book. Great customer service.She really cares.
If you people have any questions just ask. Sorry but I will not be sending this to anyone so please do not ask. Just contact Serena to purchace. You Will get your moneys worth if you put it to use.
Daver.
 
strummer Posted: 29-Sep-04 22:32
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Hi Daver and Serena,

Congrats on a winning system.
I'm interested like everyone here in a winning system that'll be consistent over time that I can depend for income.
my job situation is real hazy for the moment and I would like to have something to fall back on.

Serena and daver, can you answer some of my questions here? B/C I would absolutely love to purchase this system if it works!!!

--Firstly, is this a mechanical or subjective system? So i played along side you, will I be playing the same bets as you?
--How many live shoes have you tested before marketing it?
--What are the results, net after commissions per shoe through all the testing?
--serena, do you play this for a living? I sit possible to play this system for a living?
--How many units will I need as a buy in, and how many units will i need for a lifetime bankroll?
--Are there clear instructions for stop win and stop loss?
--I understand that you probably use a progression. What is the biggest bet in units will I be wagering in a shoe?


Thanks so much...Looking forward to reading the answers, then I'll buy.

Strummer
 
strummer Posted: 29-Sep-04 22:38
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Hi Serena and Daver,

Sorry about some of the spelling errors. I was trying to type quickly.
I forgot to ask, in your testing of shoes, what was your shoe win pct.?

Thanks again guys,

Strummer
 
roulette coolie Posted: 30-Sep-04 09:18
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Hi strummer,

One thing we must know about gambling is...... "Gambling is a very ri
sky business"......No matter it is the Baccarat, roulette or such.....


I truly and always believe able to beat the Bacc and the Roulette is
highly possible.....which I have proven with my 14-number groups in ro
ulette (as many customers from this GG roulette board had posted that
my 14-number group can help them make money).....now this is the time
for the others to say about my Bacc methods......


No matter how good a system/ method can help some others win......but
the key to constant profit is still depending on the dicipline of an
indivdual player himself......that whether he has the dicipline to qu
it after he has goal the suggested units. As silly as it may seems....
..sometimes it is so difficult to quit while we are ahead.


I have always believe able to win roulette or the Bacc as a part time
or side income is very possible......but as the full time.....it is t
oo risky for me.....I would not recommend any of my customer to go ful
l time or depend on it as the main source of income.......

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Here comes to answering your questions:


You asked :"Firstly, is this a mechanical or subjective system? So i
played along side you, will I be playing the same bets as you?"

My answer:
"For example.....In most Bacc gaming sessions.......there are lots of
moderate run streak patterns......In my Elite Bacc manual package....
..I have provided 3 basic methods to attack the moderate run streak pa
ttern trends.....all these three methods can produce good profits.....
one method may produce a bit better than the others.....Yes, one of th
em is mechanical.......but basically.....each one of them will help yo
u win. If you have read my bacc book......and if you play along with m
e, you will find that you and I are using one of those three methods..
....and you and I will understand why we are using one of those three
methods. It is just the matter of personal liking at this point "
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You asked:
"How many live shoes have you tested before marketing it?
--What are the results, net after commissions per shoe through all th
e testing?"

My answer:
" I would not tell you how many shoes I have tested before marketing.
....I can only tell you I have played many years of Baccarat in land b
ased casinos......The goal I suggested is to win 10 units.....while yo
ur buy in is also 10 units......which is a 100% profit per one single
session.....But I strong recommend while the bankroll is 10 units.....
it is very important that you have another 10 units on the side as an
emergency back up.

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You asked:
"serena, do you play this for a living? I sit possible to play this s
ystem for a living?"

My answer:
I do not plan to play this for a living......as gambling is a very ri
sky business.....Other than you need some good betting methods and tec
hniques, sometimes you will need a little luck on your side. I simply
cannot rely luck on my everyday living......But Playing is one source
of my income......

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You asked:
"How many units will I need as a buy in, and how many units will i ne
ed for a lifetime bankroll?"

My answer:
MY suggest buy in units is $200 for a $20 minimun table, to capture $
200 is my goal.....Each betting unit is $20.....I use a maximum of 3 s
teps progression, which is $20, $40 and $80. In any word, in units wis
e it is a 1-2-4 units progression......

If your table minimum is only $5.....your buy in units is $50 for a $
5 minimun table, to capture $50 is my goal.....Each betting unit is $5
.....I use a maximum of 3 steps progression, which is $5, $10 and $20.
In any word, in units wise it is a 1-2-4 units progression......

If you buy in unit is $1000......you can use the same proportion to d
o the rest of the math.....

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You asked:
"--Are there clear instructions for stop win and stop loss?"

My answer:
Yes, 10 units win (100% win) is the stop win.
Yes, 10-20 units is the stop loss.

____________________________________________________________

You asked:
"--I understand that you probably use a progression. What is the bigg
est bet in units will I be wagering in a shoe?"


My answer:
"I use a maximum of 3 steps progression, which is $20, $40 and $80. I
n any word, in units wise it is a 1-2-4 units progression"

"I use a maximum of 3 steps progression, which is $5, $10 and $20.In
any word, in units wise it is a 1-2-4 units progression"
____________________________________________________________

Hope this help.....

Serena





[Edited by roulette coolie on 30-Sep-04 11:09]
 
supraman Posted: 30-Sep-04 21:26
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Serena if your system can make a side source of income then that would mean it works (consistently wins more than it loses) and could easily be full time income as you would just have to raise your unit value. Daver used your system in Vegas and made $400 dollars using 5 dollar units. If he would have used $100 units he would have made $8,000. Daver visits casino twice a month which would = $16,000 a month which is $192,000 a year which is more than enough for anyone to live on. Mr Vegas claims he started with a 500 unit bankroll of 5 dollar chips and turned it into millions of dollars. Whether or not that is true I do not know but I am sure you are seeing what I mean.
 
roulette coolie Posted: 30-Sep-04 22:42
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Hi supraman,

I recommend my customers not to go full time gambling because gamblin
g is a risky business.....

I recommend my customers not to go full time gambling because this wa
y I can sleep well at night......

All wise peoples take advises and then make the best decisions for th
emselves.

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By the way.....supraman, How do you know Daver is not going into full
time with my Bacc system? How do you know my other customers are not
going full time with my Bacc Systems also?......Hahahaha.....surprise!


Serena


 
supraman Posted: 01-Oct-04 00:39
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Maybe in the future I will buy your system. I was just stating that if the system does work you could live off of it if you wanted to. If your system made 80 units off of a 10 unit bankroll that sounds to me that it does work. Time will tell.
 
daver Posted: 01-Oct-04 01:11
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Yes time will tell. The strength of Serenas method is that your average win is the same as a total loss. You only need one winning shoe to offset 1 losing shoe. I have only played live 1 trip.
This week I will play at $10 units. I personally know several people that had VERY bad experences with that idea of I made $400 with $5 units so I am going to play with $100 units next time.

I can play at those levels but I want MANY shoes under my belt before that.

I play with 10 banks of 10 units to be comfortable for me. That is $1000 at $10 units. A lot of money to me but not devestating if I lose. No mater how good your method is you must play in your financial comfort zone. For each person it is different.

I think that if you buy Serenas method you will get back your purchace price the first day of playing with a bankroll of less that the book costs.

I think you live near me Supraman. If you purchace Serenas method email me and we can play together in Vegas.

Daver
 
roulette coolie Posted: 01-Oct-04 08:59
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Hi supraman,

You said:"Maybe in the future I will buy your system."
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If you will buy.....that's great for me!
If you will not buy......no problem, no hard feeling......


I never push sale.....I never hard sell.....I never say I am the best
.....and I do not encourage gambling........


But regarding about capturing those potential wins at roulette and ba
ccarat, I have no intention to hide what I am capable of. Since I am b
lessed with these talents and I am going to make full use of it.......
we are all different.....we dress different....we view different......
all to better being of ourselves......


Do whatever the best is for you......

Take Care,
Serena
 
pooper scoopers Posted: 26-Oct-04 02:10
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Are you still playing this system with success? I might be interested in purchasing this system.
 
johno Posted: 26-Oct-04 04:54
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What would you pay for mine, if I was to offer to sell it (basically that means provide the missing pieces that I haven't already posted here and over at VIP).

Don't expect much, my Baccarat guide/system is 2 sides of a piece of A4 paper. Is it succesfull HELL YES, is it for everyone, HELL NO...

J <wink>




 
Natural9 Posted: 26-Oct-04 07:55
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Here some advice for people who want to gamble for a living:

Instinct: "The innate aspect of bevavior that is unlearned, complex, and normally adaptive." This is not to be confused with a hunch, or a feeling. Ask yourself if you truly have an instinct for gambling.
A book or system will never replace pure instinct. I think you shouldn't even read a book/system about whatever game you want to play until your at the top of YOUR game, this includes Poker. I'm not good a poker but I'm confident to take anyones money who plays by "The Book".


It takes some big losses and MANY hours of play before you get "good". Going "Pro" and gambling for a living is like making it into the NBA/NFL/MLB. Think about all the people in the casino that actually gamble daily for a living and are succesful, the number might not even be 1 percent. (Exclude Poker) Think about this: take 20 full BlackJack tables 10 full roulette tables and 15 full minibacc tables, out of all of those people how many do you think play for a living and are succesful?


Tell anyone that gambles for a living that you want to also gamble for a living and you will get the same answer "don't gamble"

I'm an optimist but the old saying goes "God leaves you once you sit down at the table" You have to be completely honest with yourself.
Gambling shouldn't be something to "fall back on" or a "back up" thats what your real job is for and if you have a wife or kids just forget about it unless you that GOOD which some people here might be for all I know. Good Luck.
 
roulette coolie Posted: 26-Oct-04 08:39
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Natural9 said: "I'm an optimist but the old saying goes "God leaves y
ou once you sit down at the table" You have to be completely honest wi
th yourself.
Gambling shouldn't be something to "fall back on" or a "back up" that
s what your real job is for and if you have a wife or kids just forget
about it unless you that GOOD which some people here might be for all
I know"

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Natural9 is absolutely right!!!

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From my own point of views.......

For majority...... Gambling should be for entertainment only......
For some...........Gambling may be for side income, but never a main
source of income......
For a very, very, and very few.....They can be a pro.......


Good luck to all of us!

Serena




 
Dennisbelle Posted: 26-Oct-04 10:29
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Daver,
If you are playing 5 dollar chips and you win 10 units per shoe for 6 shoes that is 300 dollars and you lost one shoe (10 units) -50 dollars so your win would be 250 dollars minus commissions not 400 dollars. Im I missing something here?
Dennis
 
johno Posted: 26-Oct-04 21:37
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Natural9

You sure did hit the nail smack on the head.

Good on you.

Excellent response.

Anybody considering paying money for ANY system, I suggest you nip over to VIP and read the last few posts on the "To Baccarat Players Only" thread.


J

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johno Posted: 22-Nov-04 06:36
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Are not the results of the testing due now ????

So lemme see, the first 8 hands it anything dominates, determines the rest of the shoe, I'll go along with that

If not nothing dominates, then we sit out the shoe, which means if your playing full blown Baccarat, it could be another 3 hours before you potentially rejoin this table, or some kind folks sitting eleswhere may let you look at their score card so you can perform a quick calculation, and hopefully this table has qualified., if not it's back to the 3 hour wait, to wait for a table that qualifies...... Welcome to the world of Baccarat, shame this is not Roulette.... But hey what is 3 hours to guarantee making 10 units, and potentially saving ourself whatever...

Oops, I used the word guarantee by mistake, lovely Serena doesn't actually guarantee anything, I don't mind, $350 is nothing....

Once again how much for this system ? Anybody paying $350 US, I trust you got your monies worth, to all else, common sense should now expose the seller for what they are......

So the first 8 hands detemine the rest of the shoe and will indentify betting opportunies, it's even copyrighted. Fantastic, most of the conditions have already been posted over at VIP by the author, so what are you paying for exactly.

Anybody who has paid for this or is thinking of paying for this, there's only only word to say

"Sucker"..

Johno
 
bozoe Posted: 13-Dec-04 17:54
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95% of gamblers are losers that include me. To sell any system with a price tag of $350 is pure rip off. If it was a guarantee system, you can name any price and no one will say boo. Funny I don't hear you mentioning spiritual bank any more. If your system is so good why are you not playing it to make all that money, why call gambling a risky business and yet have the gall to sell what you cannot guarantee for $350? Don't you think you sound like a rip off? A bloody good one at that. Just put your self in the battle of the hopeful. What you are doing is manipulating the hopes of the strugglers. The weak ones will fall for your B/S. I have to say what I think is the truth. Prove me wrong? Than guarantee your system. If you can't that the above is true to the bone. No two ways about it. Why donít we put all system sellers to a vote? That way we will stop all their B/S. Just a section for them alone, maybe some one can programme a page for these votes.
 

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