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kj smooth Posted: 12-Jan-10 10:47
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The VERY thread he started to get feedback regarding him as the new owner....the guy locks the thread. ROFL More threads to be locked in the near future as well as posts deleted, banned members etc. The next 4-8 months should be a real blast over there. Ken
 
Sheridan Posted: 12-Jan-10 12:54
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What's the angle on his "partnership" scheme? -

[Pay $0.00 up-front for our Roulette Computer, and pay 50% of your profits]

I don't have any experience using a roulette computer, but I can foresee a lot of problems, not least the fact that anyone waving a phone around next to a roulette table is going to attract attention. Steve says it's EASY, yeah, right. I'm guessing there's some "admin" fee or such like in the small print.
 
Teorulte Posted: 12-Jan-10 13:29
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There is a reason he is an ex CON.
 
SPIKE Posted: 12-Jan-10 17:35
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Closing threads is his claim to fame. He doesn't delete posts as much as he closes threads. He won't do it himself, he'll tell Lanky or somebody to do it. He can't stand it, he won't be able to help himself.
 
bombus Posted: 12-Jan-10 17:49
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Hmmm...

I've already had a couple of my posts deleted here at GG, and they were very tame, almost polite compared to some of the trash & filth I've seen here...



[Edited by bombus on 12-Jan-10 17:50]
 
kj smooth Posted: 12-Jan-10 17:54
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Here's the difference Bombus.... WE also have had posts deleted here. Myself, Spike and MANY others for comments that may or may not have been over the line. In other words, how many posts of YOURS at RF (or soon VLSteve) have been deleted from Scammer Steve????? Thats the DIFFERENCE and question. Ken
 
kj smooth Posted: 12-Jan-10 17:54
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I came up with this, lol >>> VLSteve
 
bombus Posted: 12-Jan-10 18:42
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Early on, before I was a mod I had posts deleted, I don’t know if it was Steve or another mod that did it. I can’t even remember what it was because I didn’t give a shit anyway… same goes for VLS.

Like I said, get over it you sooks.

Steve is not my ass buddy; to me, he’s just a guy who runs some forums that I happen to be a member/mod of. Outside that I have no other association with Steve. Now Lanky from VLS on the other hand, well now he’s got a sweet ass let me tell you! Hahaha!

RF was running in its current format long before I joined, but I wanted to join a roulette forum so I did, regardless of this n that being for sale. So why should it bother me now?

If people want to try and crack the game with systems, so be it!
If people want to try and crack the game with progressions, so be it!
If people want to try and crack the game with VB, so be it!
If people want to try and crack the game with voodoo, so be it!
If people want to try and crack the game with strategies, so be it!
If people want to try and crack the game with guessing, so be it!
If people want to try and crack the game with computers, so be it!

Who am I (or you) to judge what any other person finds preferable?
Oh, and I never have…after all, it’s their life not mine.

You guys take all this roulette crap way too seriously!
 
kj smooth Posted: 12-Jan-10 18:57
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Roulette crap? I could careless. VLSteve is a bullshitter and most (not all) know it. If needed, I'll wage a fuckin Jihad holy war on him. Can you name something regarding Scammer VLSteve that you dont agree with? Something you wish he would change or do differently? I'm not being an ass, its a serious question. Ken
 
bombus Posted: 12-Jan-10 19:24
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kj smooth: <<<I'll wage a fuckin Jihad holy war on him.>>>

That just about sums up your horrendous and fanatical mentality right there, Ken.

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I can only go by my personal experience.

To date, Steve has been a complete gentleman in all our dealings. He has never contacted me personally on any level. He has never tried to sell me anything, nor propositioned me in any way regarding his roulette interests, which I find commendable.

I have never met Steve, but I find him to be a relaxed and easy going person, which I like in people.

He is similar to you, Ken, in that if pushed he will push back.

“Something you wish he would change or do differently?”
Ok, I do wish he would put some proper clothes on when doing his roulette demonstrations...


[Edited by bombus on 12-Jan-10 19:24]
 
kj smooth Posted: 12-Jan-10 19:26
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Fair enough.
 
SPIKE Posted: 12-Jan-10 19:52
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All I know is on RF I was involved in 2 very lively threads, interesting and lots of posts. Within a day Steve had closed both threads with the excuse that he was 'bored' with them. HUH? The rest of us weren't bored at all. What really happened was those threads were making him look stupid and he won't stand for that, its bad for business when a scammer looks like an idiot.
 
kj smooth Posted: 12-Jan-10 20:47
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Correct....its bad for business and business aint good! Ken
 
Sheridan Posted: 13-Jan-10 02:05
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[I have never met Steve, but I find him to be a relaxed and easy going person,]

It doesn't tell us much about whether he is ripping people off though. If you're a con man, it probably pays to be "relaxed and easy going", that's how you con people. Look at Izak; a "nicer" and more personable scammer you couldn't wish to meet!

The question is, where is the evidence that he is a scammer? the partnership thing suggests the contrary.
 
Teorulte Posted: 13-Jan-10 02:06
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Izak is the one of the "nicest" scammers on the net.
 
SPIKE Posted: 13-Jan-10 02:22
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The very best scammers are around for years because they know flies are more attracted to honey than to vinegar..
 
kj smooth Posted: 13-Jan-10 03:12
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"Izak is the one of the "nicest" scammers on the net" >>> lol, good point. Its ok to F**K people over as long as you are NICE about it. Ken
 
bombus Posted: 13-Jan-10 05:52
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kj smooth: <<<Its ok to F**K people over as long as you are NICE about it. Ken >>>


Yeah, kind of like the way you would treat that poor one little asian girl stuck in the middle of your 50 neanderthals pissed to the eyeballs with baseball bats and tazer guns... Hey ladies, Ken's such a nice guy!

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Posted by kj smooth: 08-Jan-10 19:55

http://www.gamblersglen.com/cgi-bin/teemz/teemz.cgi?board=_master&act
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Sick!

[Edited by bombus on 13-Jan-10 08:17]
 
Teorulte Posted: 13-Jan-10 13:15
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Ken was kidding bumbos. He would never scam people like you and your Ex con Buddy Stephano. Why don't you go troll another forum?
 
bombus Posted: 13-Jan-10 15:23
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Ok Ken.

You were joking around… I kind of figured that, duh.

I just find it offensive that you had to include a disrespectful quip against the fairer sex… wasn’t really necessary to get your joke over.

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@ Teorulte,

You shaving yet?....won’t be long now young man.

Cheers.
 
Stefano Posted: 13-Jan-10 15:39
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Stop it J you are hurting my feelings.

For the record:

1. Beating roulette with a computer in the right conditions IS EASY. If you think otherwise, I care? Somewhere in this thread, someone said using a computer in plain sight would be hard. Well duh! The computers are hidden, and application can be done with casino staff right in front of you. I know I know, I'm scammer steve. I'll charge you $0.00 for roulette computers than ask you to pay half of your winnings.

2. Only idiots like J would say advantage play is a scam. According to him, he makes his fortune with fantastamagastic betting strategies.

Let's just stick with that I'm a scammer - it's easier.
 
SPIKE Posted: 13-Jan-10 15:50
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>>Beating roulette with a computer in the right conditions IS EASY. The computers are hidden, and application can be done with casino staff right in front of you.>>

Hey Steve! Have you complied that list of casinos yet that are friendly to players using concealed cheating devices? I asked you that over 2 years ago and still haven't seen it! You keep saying in most places its 'not illegal'. Can you list the casinos that won't break your legs for getting caught using your cheating device?

Thanks, buddy!
 
Teorulte Posted: 13-Jan-10 16:04
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Bumbus and his ex con buddy Stefano (aka Double Zero, aka Gamblelots) make an appearance.

Who would want to deal with a spamming excon anyway?

GRIN

Two cunts in the same pod LOL

[Edited by Teorulte on 13-Jan-10 16:07]
 
SPIKE Posted: 13-Jan-10 16:36
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There are some places in the world where you could easily lose your life for getting caught using a cheating device like a roulette computer. Thats a fact. How come Steve never mentions that?
 
Teorulte Posted: 13-Jan-10 16:51
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It might hurt sales LOL
 
SPIKE Posted: 13-Jan-10 16:54
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You know what some of the Russian casinos do to people they catch cheating? Nobody really does because they are never seen again.
 
kj smooth Posted: 13-Jan-10 19:14
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"According to him, he makes his fortune with fantastamagastic betting strategies" >>> I never said anything about a fortune but nice try scammer! "I just find it offensive that you had to include a disrespectful quip against the fairer sex" >>> The only thing thats disrespectful is you and your ass pal paying us a visit here. If you two hate it here so much, why post? You two are NOT defending AP, you two are not defending each other, you are defending SALES. Hey Bottomfeeder Bombus.... Just curious, are you the packer or the receiver. Who calls who the bitch? Ken
 
Stefano Posted: 13-Jan-10 20:23
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Teorulte you must be mark howe. Hows it goin mate? How many fake ids is it now? Who did you piss off this time? http://www.zyworld.com/predict_roulette_computer_scam/ - actually I do know who it is and I did ask them not to do it, but you pissed them off too much. BTW mark people want to expand that site and are begging me to post the link on the front of my roulette computer sites. Consider yourself lucky I have no interests in doing that.

Spike, sure I'll tell you where all my players are playing. Or maybe not. If you want to know, get a job, then hire a lawyer to find out for yourself. Sorry I dont give a rats arse about what you or anyone thinks about roulette computers. No-one forces you to use them.

I'm not defending bombus and he's not defending me. I think we are both here for comedy relief.

J nice one about VLSteve. Actually pretty stupid. Try harder. I have lots of love for you j. Everyone loves you.

I know I know, I'm a scammer. Evil. I will scam you all. mwahaha etc.

[Edited by Stefano on 13-Jan-10 20:41]
 
kj smooth Posted: 13-Jan-10 20:42
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I think the VLSteve thing is kind of catchy! lol You see, if your name was Bob, it wouldn't work, oh forget it. Somebody made a deal with the devil, I won't name who. I give you 5% credit on one thing Scammer VLSteve, if people are that STUPID to pay you for 'whatever', F**K em.

Its kind of like reading those ads.....lose pounds while you sleep, just take one pill before going to bed. The pills cost like $130 etc. If people are that dumb, you get my point. You're a bullshitter Steve and you know it. I find it interesting that you attempted to buy GG.

Now, you can claim the reason would be for more ads and running the show etc. but thats NOT the REAL reason. By shutting our mouths, SALES go up. Lets be honest here, the more you can silence the nay-sayers....the better it is for yourself, no?

You have RF and VLS. GG (as far as I know) is the LAST OPEN board slamming you. VIP is too small (in regards to traffic), whats left to buy? LTW and JP obviously are owned by other bullshitters so you're out of luck with that. lol Ken
 
Teorulte Posted: 13-Jan-10 20:58
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http://www.roulettesystemsexposed.com/stefanohourmouzis.htm

http://www.internetnews.com/bus-news/article.php/6_499241

http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/stories/s204117.htm

GRIN
 
Teorulte Posted: 13-Jan-10 21:00
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LTW and JP obviously are owned by other bullshitters so you're out of luck with that. lol Ken

LOL No doubt.
 
Stefano Posted: 13-Jan-10 21:25
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Oh so Teorulte you really ARE mark howe. Like it wasnt clear enough.

http://www.zyworld.com/predict_roulette_computer_scam/
Did you know your roulette computer was being distributed free here? I really did honestly try to stop is happening but it's too late and the people were dead set on doing it.

http://www.roulettesystemreviews.com/index2.html#markhoweroulettecomp
uter

http://www.roulettesystemreviews.com/r-markhoweroulettecomputer.htm
http://www.roulettewars.com/markhowe.html
http://www.genuinewinner.com/rentech.htm

And like I really give a rats arse, WWW.******************* - you forgot that one.

I'm a scammer. Oh fate. Cruel fate. Honestly while it did get at me ages ago, now I honestly dont give a crap. I love life, I'm very happy where I am, and it amuses me to see you idiots run in circles with your jihads. It only shows how simple-minded you are, and how pissed off you get when you get shit dished out back to you.

Anyway I'd love to stay and play, really, but I have to do some work now.
 
Stefano Posted: 13-Jan-10 21:27
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Ken I was once going to buy GG but fishman's price was unreasonable. If he was interested in revisiting the issue, I'm interested.

To answer your question, NO, the threads would REMAIN. Just as all the negative threads about me on RF and VLS still remain. Well that blew your theory out the window eh? I'm telling you I just dont give a shit anymore. Anyone who actually does research learns the truth, and what morons people like mark howe are. Besides life is too good to worry about that crap.
 
kj smooth Posted: 13-Jan-10 21:42
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You are full of crap Scammer VLSteve! There is no way these two threads (and a couple from Spike) would remain, no way liar. Ken
 
Teorulte Posted: 13-Jan-10 21:42
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Funniest thing is:

http://www.roulettesystemreviews.com/


GW Roulette Computer | roulettecomputers.com

Steve Hourmouzis roulette computer

Not rated (this is the author's product)

Advantage Play Genuine Winner | genuinewinner.com

Genuine winner roulette system

Not rated (this is the author's product)

Yet for the longest time they WERE rated, and naturally at 4 1/2 stars of course. (I mean why not rate your OWN product that high LOL)

http://www.roulettesystemsexposed.com/gw-whois.htm

http://www.gamblersglen.com/cgi-bin/teemz/teemz.cgi?board=_master&act
ion=opentopic&topic=152&forum=Gambling_Tools



You know that is funny Steven! You accused me of being Mark when I got your original forum shut down on your website roulettesystemreviews.com when I questioned the ethics of running a roulette systems review site, and reviewing two of your OWN PRODUCTS!

Who would want to do business with an ex-con and a guy who made a review site so he could review his OWN systems, letting others believe he was a neutral, impartial party.

LOL

Almost too easy...
 
Stefano Posted: 13-Jan-10 22:22
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Umm. Do you know why my system would rate higher than the second highest rated system, which is laurence scott? Because I teach everything laurence teaches, and actually quite a lot more.

Umm my forum was never shut down. Take your pills. Focus on your own review sites, but try telling the truth.

Umm do you know why your roulette computer rated so poorly? Because it is crap.

Let's just leave it at I'm a scammer. You win. Boo hoo.

And Ken, check the "negative" threads about my on rf and vls. They are still there dopey. So if I bought gg why would it be any different?

[Edited by Stefano on 13-Jan-10 22:22]
 
Teorulte Posted: 13-Jan-10 22:46
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Your product's effectiveness is not relevant at all, because you in the beginning you denied any claim that YOU (or some of your lackies) ran the roulettesystemreviews site. You lied and did things dishonestly.

 
Stefano Posted: 13-Jan-10 22:54
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Umm, but mark I did NOT own the site from the start. Yet I always said I had contributed to its content, which started when it began getting good google rankings. Sure I contributed the review of your crappy computer - I never said otherwise. I bought that site along with RF long ago. Who cares if you cant grasp that I buy developed sites. One of my first businesses was www.site-promotion.com and it still runs. I have approximately 40 sites at the moment and most have absolutely nothing to do with gambling or roulette.

Besides even if it were my site from the start, dont you think I would have promoted my own products from it at the start? I dont think I was even mentioned on it for a year or so.

But let's talk about ***********************.com roulettesystemsexposed.com and roulettecomputers.info.. or maybe lets not bother coz I dont give a crap.

[Edited by Stefano on 13-Jan-10 22:57]
 
SPIKE Posted: 13-Jan-10 22:58
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I have approximately 40 sites at the moment and most have absolutely nothing to do with gambling or roulette.>>>

Name them.

And if Teo is mark Howe, he must never go to bed. The last post he made was at 4am UK time. He posts all night long UK time, he must stay up 24 hours a day, huh..
 
Teorulte Posted: 13-Jan-10 23:02
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Oh shit it's alreaday 4 am? Better get to bed, got to bail out a buddy in a couple of hours.
 
Stefano Posted: 13-Jan-10 23:08
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Correct spike. Maybe you havent been on GG long enough, or maybe you dont pay attention. Mark LIVES on the internet discrediting me and promoting his scam. Besides, last i heard he ran to Norway to escape the authorities, which would make it like 5:30am. Wow, nah not really - I'm not surprised. Nothing surprises me when it comes to that man. There are a lot of things that give him away, but 4 are:

1. He says exactly the same rubbish, that nobody else repeats exactly like him.

2. He is the only person I've ever known who ends his post with GRIN. Oh but wait, read the posts above.

3. His excessive use of LOL should be trademarked.

4. His whole head is misconfigured. Perhaps running windows 98, I dont know. It shows through in what he says.

If he is not mark howe, then **** me dead, he is a clone.

And Spike, do you really think I would reveal my sites, or would I want to have an idiot like Mark Howe post on every random page claiming them to be a scam? I mean come on, really doode... If it's so hard for you to believe, well, I dont give a doo-doo.

[Edited by Stefano on 13-Jan-10 23:28]
 
SPIKE Posted: 13-Jan-10 23:32
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The subject of teo beimg MH is so stupid and so ridiculous that I can't take it seriously. I've read hundred of MH posts, they totally different styles. Your paranoia is astounding.

>>do you really think I would reveal my sites>>

You would just lie anyway, so why bother.
 
kj smooth Posted: 13-Jan-10 23:51
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I asked Scammer VLSteve this question before. Any issue if UPSET past customers wanted to start a thread (or section) at VLSteve regarding your products?

To be fair, only people that have bought your bullshit ILLEGAL devices. Would those posts be allowed to stay? Knocking your fuckin teeth out with every letter, every word of every post. Exposing what a moron, cheat and liar you truly are!!! Ken
 
snowman Posted: 14-Jan-10 00:21
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Ken,

You can make a stronger point if you clean up the language just a bit.

If you talk like your in the ghetto, then people won't take you seriously and they will dismiss whatever you say. However, if you articulate your point, then people are more likely to consider your point.

Snowman
 
kj smooth Posted: 14-Jan-10 00:24
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The F word or no F word, the guy is STILL a scammer. It does not change his past/present/future. He did it to himself, I have no sympathy for him. Ken
 
kj smooth Posted: 14-Jan-10 00:42
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I just noticed that Snowman. You're now also a "helper", ok I got it. Ken
 
Teorulte Posted: 14-Jan-10 01:30
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Ken,

You can make a stronger point if you clean up the language just a bit.

If you talk like your in the ghetto, then people won't take you seriously and they will dismiss whatever you say. However, if you articulate your point, then people are more likely to consider your point.

Snowman

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Absolutely ridiculous.

You should take your own advice and stop acting so cocky and arrogant and then maybe YOUR points would come off stronger.
 
snowman Posted: 14-Jan-10 01:33
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Look, I know it seems arrogant, but people do judge you based on the words that you use.

Think about it.
 
Teorulte Posted: 14-Jan-10 01:41
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Okay what about MH. He was tough to debate because of his language and style, and he didn't always keep things civil.

Sometimes drastic measures calls for drastic language.

I've always loved the fact that people don't mind guys like Izak and the way they make money but they only really have a problem when I call him something offensive. It is the PC mentality.

Same thing with Islam. There are proposals to the UN to make criticisms of Islam illegal in countries! Imagine that. Then they can implement Sharia Law everywhere, and take over. They found out sticks and slingshots won't dominate the world, but massive breeding will.
 
snowman Posted: 14-Jan-10 01:49
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Teo,

I'm far from being PC. I can't stand the PC culture in my country.



My point is that people will lend more weight to your arguments if you phrase and word them well.



Snowman







[Edited by snowman on 14-Jan-10 01:58]
 
Teorulte Posted: 14-Jan-10 02:05
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Okay fair enough.
 

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