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Akin Posted: 08-Dec-03 05:37
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During the week-end 4/5 members of a well known international team of knowledgable successful advantage players visited Howey at a house in Sheffield.After speaking at length with a member of the team, who I should point out is a close friend and someone whos opinions I trust implicitly,Their conclusion was as follows.
1. Without a doubt MH was a man with limited knowledge of gaming, mathematics and applied physics.
2. It was evident from the outset that he had played very little time, if at all in U.K. and European casinos and certainly had never won or lost £4.5M.
3. The Psion programme remained unproven to predict after many hours of attempting by MH. Results obtained were well within chance trials.
4. Whilst MH was a man of pleasant personality he was, in fact a chancer who it was believed was marketing the computer on behalf of someone else.
In conclusion anyone contemplating purchasing the product would be well advised to forget it.
It is not my intention to enter into long contact on this board but my post is a caveat for those wondering exactly what is being offered and by whom.AA.

p.s. After reading numerous half-informed posts by MH I feel sure he is just skilled at cut & paste. Grin.
 
serchad Posted: 08-Dec-03 06:05
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'4. Whilst MH was a man of pleasant personality'

I'm extremely sorry but I couldn't help myself but are we talking about the person who abuses anyone who questions anything about his product and theories?
 
Fruity Posted: 08-Dec-03 06:49
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Oh no I'm gonna wait for him to accuse me or ahcoln to be akin. I too think in person he's a very nice guy.
 
Craig812 Posted: 08-Dec-03 06:56
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Hello Akin,

May I first welcome you to the forum!

This is a very interesting post you have just made, I have tried to gain answers from Mark regarding his inconsistent and often inaccurate posts, but with little success! I have also tried to get answers from Mark via e-mail, but he refuses to answer any questions, and only sends insults. His inability to answer credible questions privately, has led me to believe that he is nothing more than a scam artist! And should be exposed as such!

It would be interesting if one these people in this team who visited Mark, would kindly post their opinions here. I am not doubting your words but it would give others here a chance to ask them questions!

No doubt he will now post that he knew they were spies, and he deliberately made his equipment not work properly!

Craig


 
Fruity Posted: 08-Dec-03 07:08
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Akin I would also like to know more about these people that visited Mark. Would it be possible to write it in this thread if not could you let me know via email roddingman@hotmail.com
 
docker Posted: 08-Dec-03 18:55
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Looks like his scamming/selling empire is crumbling all around him.

Like it has been said over & over again, if you have something that can earn you a couple of million, you just do not 'blab' about it in the way that he and his salesmen have been at it.

Even to the point of saying you play just one number, you are giving the game away for every purchaser, and the casino will be on to you before you get the chance of winning the cost of the device back.

Keep digging that hole.

LOL
 
markhowy Posted: 08-Dec-03 19:02
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Hi Folks

Obviously Akin was not there!

The four people in question, lets stick to exactness were 3 guys and a girl!

One from Belgium(With Girlfriend), One from Thailand, the other from
the south of England!

They turned up at my home worse for wear after a night on the town close to my own!

After only spinning the wheel for 70 spins, the hit rate was 1 in 16 .44 on the computer as a direct hit, this was before the offset had kicked in!

We played for another 56 spins, although the direct hit was only once in this time, this can happen, but over all we did not finish on a win.

#In total this was a success of 5 hits in 125 spins directly on the number!

this is a success of 1 in 25.2

Meaning that although we stopped on a run of over 40 spins without a hit, the system was 68% in favour!

I do not think that deviation is abnormal, but an edge of over 68% beats any other system thats out there hands down!

So if they wish to take the overall results, the computer predicted 1 in 25.2!

If they was looking at the last 56 spins, 1 in 56, which is a bit ridculous to take this as not working, there was plenty of neigbour bets that turned up next door to the predicted hit point, in fact over 120%!

On the half of the wheel that the ball was first hitting, over 72.22 % of the spins thats 91, fell within this first half of the wheel, that is the first 18 numbers.

Come and view for yourself, this is the only way to see it working!

It may be helpful to point out that the people who turned up as "Knowledable professional Players" did not reflect in the old clapped out Toyata car they was driving, Belgium plates and all,and claiming it was their own car, reflected in any way that they was not some hotshot gambling team.

Secondly, they also wittnessed my Patents and ideas that have being taken by several companies across the world, showing that I am in fact quite knowledgable on a broad range of science diciplines and that on this summise alone, I should have made quite a killing with the inventions that was disclosed to them and is public knowledge!

It is also appearent that 126 spins is not alot for the time they claim they was here!

This was because they decided to talk amongst themselves, even in Portugese(Belgian and the Brazillian), which I find extremely rude in others company who do not speak another lauguage, which just by sheer chance, I can speak to some degree after spending some of my childhood there!
The Brazillian Lady, Claudia, said that she did not think it worked that well, and that she was Hungry, could they come back tomorrow!
Not bad, to say she was paying very little attention( sleep with her eyes closed most of the time) to the results and what was happening, all of them were falling asleep pretty regular, burning the candle at both ends was apparent!

They arrived at 10 30 am in the morning and left at 7pm in the evening, a long time to say they only wittnessed 126 spins in total!

It was all on video ,so maybe anyone who wishes to come and see me can view for themselves!

The next day, no phone call at 10am, I managed to contact them at around 12,30pm to one guy who had left his phone number luckily!

He apologised for the others behaviour and could not understand why they had not contacted me in the morning, but said has it was not his Vehicle, but they had made their way down to London that evening as they had decided to go home.

Again, not the actions of a professional team!

They are not a team at all, so Akin is wrong again, they play individually, not collectively! This is catagorically stated in the video footage I have, as I asked them if they play coolectively. Only the partner of the Belgium guy is present when he plays, she seems to only tag along!

One lived in Kent, The belgium Guy and the Brazillian girl lived in Margate, the other guy lived in London.

Personally, I found them all to be tired, incoherrent and slightly rude.

Only one of the guys in the team was following what I was doing , maybe because he was sat at the side of the wheel. He was Thai and had excellent understanding of what was happening and the results that was appearing on the computer screen and the hit rate which is displayed on the screen!

He actually spoke to me and said he is interested, maybe because he was the only guy who seemed to have some mathematical prowess and could see the results clearly!

Also the older gent from Kent seemed to show some interest and was asking the right questions, but I do not think he was following as good as the Thai Guy!

They did not seem that interested in the system really, but talked about themselves most of the time, which was not the reason for them coming to see me!

A video will be produced by myself shortly, showing the roulette computer in action and the success rate! If placed on CD, which I think will be the way to go, I will include this footage of this 'Professional team' for you to view, you can then make up your own minds!

It will be played continuiously for 10 hours, a digital clock adjacent to the wheel, so there will be no editing of the tape, only stops for breaks. This will then put the disbelievers to sleep ,once and for all!

I suggest that Akin contacts the team and gets the facts right, or comes to take me up on a bet, if he is so sure it does not work! Name your stakes! and come and watch the system beat yuo hands down!


Regards

Mark.





[Edited by markhowy on 08-Dec-03 19:08]
 
docker Posted: 08-Dec-03 19:28
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You poor thing, having to explain

Think I will stick with my wife's 1 in 18.

How much for the video?

Surely a free one is the way to go, with a win/win situation for both parties.
 
cloud Posted: 09-Dec-03 08:45
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Hi everyone
I am one of the 4,I was not going to get invlved in silly tit for tat arguments but Mark sent me an email saying how wrong we were to discredit him; he was civilised about it and I did answer in the same courteous manner.
However, let's tell the facts as they are and not half truth.
First, Mark remarks about the toyota; well it is 8 years old, so what? I didn't win £4.5; his mitsubishi does;nt look that new either,
If I won all that money , I would have a fleet of cars and be chauffeur driven.
Where I agreed with you Mark, let's stick to exactness.
Correct 3 guys and 1 girl.
You are also right when you mention that we were worse for wear, we spent a lousy night sleep in a hotel.
Then you wore us up even further.
Spending 8 hours in a tiny room is no one idea of fun,with no drinks and no food; come on who is the rude one ?
Is is not a normal human feeling that we were hungry, we were very patient listening to you, you just did not convince us and one of us felt the need to expose you.
The video will show you that there was only 2 chairs in that tiny room and the thai guy fell asleep in one of them, yes he is the one that Mark claimed understood better; he was so bored that he fell asleep; he is the only one who did so contrary to what Mark said...
The wheel was a battered ( like the toyota ) wheel from the 60s,not very professional ( again like the car )0 was biased...
We were not talking about ourselves as you claimed, you were the one doing the talllkkkiiing
,why only 120 odd spins in 8 hours???
Judge for yourselves on that video folks, guarantee you will fall asleep disbelievers or not...
 
markhowy Posted: 09-Dec-03 10:05
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Hi Cloud

At least you agree on the number of spins, thats enough to show people that at least some of the truth has come out!

You were asked if you would like any drinks on several occassions, you refused, Dee was asked several times because he was coughing!

You all fell asleep at some point, everyone of you, that confirms you were in no fit state to paying attention of what was in fact being predicted or not, you only kept a record yourself for only 56 spins, not exactly putting the time in to see if something works!

As you all claimed to be professional gamblers, it begs the question of how long your attention span is at the wheel, or with cards, for if you are always burning the candle at both ends, you will not be able to hold your own when it comes to actually play.

I think you all were more interested in going out and partying than litening to what I had to say. Four people talking over one person who trying to demonstrate something shows who were doing all the talking!

I think you will be amazed when and if you get to see the video, everyone of you was nodding, falling asleeep, not just DEE! This was straight away and you explain why above!

Dee ,in my eyes was the only one who made apologies for you all, the only one who was following what I was doing, and yes he fell asleep, at the end, but I had stoped spinnning the wheel then!

I actually have two wheels, but one is still on loan to a purchaser, so incorrect again.

But at the end of the tape, the main thing is that the ball went into the exact number 5 times in 126, 1 in 25.2, and this is what counts! this is incuding the last 46 spins, when we did not have an hit, on the video to prove!

Yours or my behavior has nothing to do with what this board is about, people just want to know if the system works!

Regards

Mark.
 
Fruity Posted: 09-Dec-03 10:07
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Welcome to the board cloud. What an 8 year old car is definately a clapped up one. Just think Mark accuses my uncle's 5 year old one being clapped up. What I don't understand is why he needs to bring up the matter of cars when he's the one trying to prove things not the purchaser. Oh he own's a Mitsubishi? From his old site he stated he has a NEW SLK Kompressor.

He also should be using the new wheel like he says he tests on this board. Don't tell me that he still uses the wheel with the arms sticking out with deep pockets and the 0 having a smaller seperator.

What are you doing in Sheffield? That's supposed to be temporary and he should be living in Derby.

He says that for the first 70 spins it hit 1 in 16.44? May I ask you if this was in real play or still taking timings where the result is based on PAST results had you have bet at that offset? What about the last 56 spins? Was that the point when the computer automatically changed the offset? Guess you guys just didn't understand the simple instructions like myself that's why it failed right?

So you guys live in UK? Maybe we can meet up oneday at a casino for a few drinks after New Year.

roddingman@hotmail.com
 
cloud Posted: 09-Dec-03 10:27
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To Fruity
Yes it is still the old wheel with the biased 0
To Mark
Just SHOW THAT VIDEO and you will get caught with your lies, Dee was THE ONLY ONE falling asleep,if he did apologise to you it's he might be concerned about your Jamaican friends.
As for the spins , I too have many times got a number coming way above average.
Your presentation was poor, not once did you use the device in your pocket as it should be done in casino.
The wheel was an absolute disgrace...
SHOW THAT VIDEO AND LET EVERYONE JUDGE FOR THEMSELVES.
No doubt that you BELIEVE in what you are doing but what let you down is your distortion of what really happened...
So you say let's see the video, agreed 100%, LET'S SEE THAT VIDEO
This will be my last post ever because I feel that Mark is going to come with some more explanations but they will not hold when that video is viewed.
Come on Mark, WE WANT TO SEE THAT VIDEO...
 
Akin Posted: 09-Dec-03 10:54
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Hello Cloud, Have we met I am at present editing the monthly so I am not familiar with all of you, do you have a wife who assists? I think we should meet in Prague if you agree? Please be discreet regarding Birmingham.AA.Ask PieWhacket to identify me.
 
markhowy Posted: 09-Dec-03 11:51
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Hi Akin

Knowing standard deviation, 5 hits in 125 spins is pretty good, 1 in 25.2! Even after the last 46 spins had no hit, you would never finish on a losing bet, with this system, but a winning one!
THe guy asked me a particular question, what is standard deviation, can you tell me, you can clearly hear me reply on the footage that
"Standard deviation is a statistical measure of spread and variability, there is various different types of deviation, there is a 2 deviation, a 3 deviation" He replied, " I have heard people discuss it, but never knew what it was" I then showed him the figures, not in graphical form, but related frequencies of the RED and Black appearing 0ver 400 spins, to give him an idea of the complexities of the graph produced, just for a simple study of Reds and Blacks. "He replied, thats over my head", so I proceeded to carry on with the spinnning of the wheel, as these guys and girl were major distractors!

But after 8.5 hours at my home, little attention was given to what I was actually doing! The Brazillian girl was very young, the guy Jeanno very old, he told me, its on the video the word for a Brazilian Whore, he made reference to her on the video footage, she just laughed. Many a true word spoken in jest.

It may also be pointed out that the girl, bending over in summer type outfits had the attention of only one dirty old guy who had come with the team full attention, its quite funny to see on the video, him clearly with his hands in is trousure pockets, leering at here backside and then watching her breast nearly falling out in front of him. Definately not paying attention to what I was doing, this went on for the whole period of time!

The house was bought for cash, without even viewing it over the internet, as a temporary home while my other home is being built, they was informed of this. They were also informed of the other roulette wheel.

No mention of the Inventions that I showed them when one of them asked what I had invented, clearly with my name on the Patents and in areas of commercial interest, even letters showing what companies I had had contact with. Although curiously, no mention of this!

Why they came with cash to purchase I do not know, they was informed before they even travelled up here that I had none in stock to sell them. I do not keep stock, because I only sell to very few people.

I may do one of the computers for someone visiting me, if it is just one person, I usually have one computer done per future client, in this instance, I only had my demonstration model, which I do not sell!

My wife has twins, she has not got time to entertain people!

As for the Parkers Price guide, you are absolutely correct, but people who buy new cars use this, not just secondhand cars!
The information it can give on any current model, like faults in the brakes are known, or bad handling, gearbox problems on the Range rovers and BMW X5. This is the area I look in, for a want also a safe vehicle for my children, when I purchase new!

A car is only known of its faults when it is a few years old, the new cars that emerge usually have the same inherrent faults as the old models.

SO its a handy book to have around!

As one of you had an old Toyota, it it obviously some time since you purchased a new vehicle!

As for my vehicle, it still needs a wash, but having a LWB 24V petrol Mitubishi Shogun, is not exactly a cheap car to run in the UK, only the wealthy run a petrol Version!


The computer I am using is my daughters, my offices are under refurbishment, you was informed of this also!

As for your quote>

'An assortment of books by unknowns on his desk,'

The cctv footage shows the exact books on my desk, >

Thirteen against the bank ...N Leigh

Roulette ....P Basieux

John Scarnes book on gambling( When of the best books ever written)

Newtonian Casino..... T Bass

The Predictors. ..Thomas A Bass

LEs Differentielles Synchronisees....Marcel Boutet

La Science de la Roulette et du Trente et Quarante...Henri Chateau

Gamblers Handbook...E.Lenon Figgis F.C.A

These are the ones that you can clearly see the titles in the CCTV footage that will be released!

Not exactly books to be sniffed at, but obviously mad about me filming them, who knows!

Still 5 hits in 126 is 68% in favour, not bad for someone you claim has not demonstrated the system!

The footage will be revealed on my site, well snippets of it, the site is nearly done now!

I would suggest that if you seriously believe that all four of you had the money to purchase the roulette computer, why did one of you say he could not afford to buy it on that day, again on video. But if you want to believe that all four of you had the money to purchase and are a team, would it not be a wiser investment to purchase a car fit for not one, but four professional gamblers, you car was only worth about £1250, if in relatively good condition, (just checked in Parkers Price book lOL). Also your dress or shoes did not reflect your claims, nor your watches,the girls cheap jewelery, just an observation from my point of view, also the cctv will show the rest! Thats an hours play profit with my roulette computer!

I do not judge people who come to my home generally, I am not a snob or think I am above people, I treat people with the same amount of respect that I should recieve from them, your account is very fickle, embodies alot of lies and if you knew anything about probabiliy and standard deviation, you would know that 5 in 126 is not exactly enough spins to demonstrate such a system! Even thogh it showed 1 in 25.2 and was 68% in favour!

Compared to over a thousand spins I did with Rodney over a week, it is not enough spins to really show the roulette computers power, but if you can make an academic guess on just 126 spins, even with the results outlined above, then you can truely predict trends without the aid of a roulette computer! You obviously do not know what standard Deviation is!

I doubt any of you are professional gamblers, BS srpings to mind, for all of you, except DEE, he was the only one who was intelligent amongst you all, and asked the right questions and could see the results of the computer. It show how much attention you was paying, how many spins was I spinning for set up, how many for play, you do not know, incredible as I was counting them out for you, you must have had a real hell of an humdinger the night before, not to paying attention to me counting out the timings.


It would have being impossible anyway, because I was changing it every spin, sometimes 1 timng of the ball and rotor, sometimes 7, as you were known to be casino staff before you appeared at my home, and showed me no proof of who you were, you did not see anything, it did not cost me any travelling expenses, only you!

I enjoyed playing around with you for the time you were here!

I was having breakfast in London the following day, Leicster Square to be more precise!

Do you honestly think I am that stupid!

The footage you want to see, will be voiced over to pint out where you slipped up, and one of the guys having a perverted play with himself at the back of the room over the girl bending over, cctv is pretty powerful!

But the best footage is yet to come, but this will be on my site, sue me if you can, what I have done is totally legal!
Oh well. .

I rest my case..



LOL

Mark. .








[Edited by markhowy on 09-Dec-03 12:56]
 
bohawkins Posted: 09-Dec-03 13:31
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This is fun!!! It is not the usual namecalling, but actually a bit of drama. The problem I have with it is... what would the video prove? That it didn't work? hmmmmm Is there a way the "Rodney" guy could give someone on the board here a phone number in Australia... so that he could be verified? That might shed some light. If Rodney is a real person who can be called in Australia and he says on that call what he posted... that would be very interesting.

Bo
 
Akin Posted: 09-Dec-03 14:22
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Hello mark, firstly I doubt very much that you are telling the truth. But if that filthy man was in fact, leering and manipulating his genitalia why on earth did you not bring the proceedings to a halt, possibly you were also fondling yourself, will you show that part in the video footage,I think not.I have heard from a reliable source that on a different occassion you were asked not to stare at a young ladie's breasts as she was only 14 years old!!!!!!Trumbaduck also said that you were turned down for a very small part in a porn film- how embarrassing for you apparantly they promised to put you on the short list.I do not want this post to degenerate into tit for tat arguments so accept my apologies if I have offended you.AA.
 
markhowy Posted: 09-Dec-03 14:33
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It will be apparant on the Video /Footage, I will place it on my site for you to have a laugh at!

LOL

There is a few more snippets tto, that are really funny!

Not the professional Gambling team image, thats for sure!

LOL

MARK..

YOu need to ask the old man, check it out!
 
cloud Posted: 09-Dec-03 14:33
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A NON EDITED VIDEO Please;this man is completely insane...
 
markhowy Posted: 09-Dec-03 15:08
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It will be apparant on the Video /Footage, I will place it on my site for you to have a laugh at!

LOL

There is a few more snippets tto, that are really funny!

Not the professional Gambling team image, thats for sure!

LOL

MARK..

YOu need to ask the old man, check it out!
 
markhowy Posted: 09-Dec-03 15:15
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HEY Fruity

Your U*ncles car was alot older than 5 years, more like 15 years old, think it was an F registered Vehicle, thats possibly 1987, or there abouts, hence all the rust on it!

YOur a funny guy fruity!

& The Professional Gambling team

I had to swallow hard when you told me this, it was the most unconvincing act of a bunch of fools that I have ever seen, thats why you work in the casino industry!

LOL

Mark ..
 
markhowy Posted: 09-Dec-03 15:22
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Hi Folks

First Akin says this in his post above>
Akin Posted: 08-Dec-03 05:37 Edit

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During the week-end 4/5 members of a well known international team of knowledgable successful advantage players visited Howey at a house in Sheffield

Mark Says>


THen says he was one of the team, can he not count, hope hes not trying to make money counting cards if does not know how many people travelled up with him in the cheap car!

What a bunch of fools!

LOL

Mark. .
 
Fruity Posted: 09-Dec-03 15:27
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It's an N reg Red Honda Civic vTech need photo's to prove it? Again it doesn't matter about the purchasers they can be poor as hell and still not affect your claims.

As for

"& The Professional Gambling team

I had to swallow hard when you told me this, it was the most unconvincing act of a bunch of fools that I have ever seen, thats why you work in the casino industry" I never said anything about a "Professional Gambling team"
 
markhowy Posted: 09-Dec-03 15:37
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Hey Fruity

N REG, that makes it about 8 years old in a month or so! Makebe bought it from the same garage as the casino staff, bought in the same year, anyway!

Not the five years you claim, maybe he does not look after it, it was in a rather shoddy mess, inside and out, I had to drive it to the travel lodge for you, remember!

Please send me the picture of the car, and of your big brothers too, you sound like a real child!

LOL

And further more>

& the professional team, means just that, directed at them,not you!

Here fruity goes fruity!

LOL

Mark. .

 
markhowy Posted: 09-Dec-03 15:39
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Ho and Fruity

A straight Question

Do you agree that the system does not work, like the 'PROFESSIONAL GAMBLING TEAM'

You have wittnessed it yourself, so truthfully, do you think the system does not work, or do you know it does work?

REGARDS

Mark. .
 
Fruity Posted: 09-Dec-03 15:58
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Seems like you're understand a lot more about childish behaviours. I was expecting you to ask for proof like you normally do. You think I should give you MORE advertising? Why should I say it works? Actually I'll say from what YOU'VE told the board IT DOESN'T WORK (I have a bugged version so it cannot work) it's only when I applied MY OWN rules that I was able to make money.
 
markhowy Posted: 09-Dec-03 16:33
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Hey Fruity

Its the answer I was looking for!

First you say it does work and claim 1 in 12 sucess, now your claiming you intervened using your own rules, how did you manage that in my home Fruity!

Looks like you are lying trough your back teeth again!

LOL

Mark. .
 
Fruity Posted: 09-Dec-03 16:56
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Ok the rest of the board I can PROVE to you (same as marks demonstration) that I can have an advantage.

Have a tally chart of how many times each number hits and there will be ONE number which has hit more than others. For example if you spin for 100 spins and number 1 has hit 5 times during that time then you have a 1 in 20 hit rate. How's that for an edge? Remember mark that your results are based on PAST results NOT real play results. IF that day you was to BET EXACTLY WHAT THE COMPUTER said in your ear you'd be DOWN. It's only if you was betting 1 number FROM what the computer said that you would have had 1 in 12. Bottom line is you DIDN'T. My system can have better returns than marks but only if you're betting at that right point at that time. Even if you carry on with my system for another 50 spins and number 1 only hits once during that time you're still UP because you have a 1 in 30 chance. This also doesn't require a computer and also doesn't cost you anything.

So the success if you keep pestering IS 1 in 12 had you bet 1 number away from what your computer said.
 
Bill Bradley Posted: 09-Dec-03 17:35
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Time to give it up Mark. The balony is played out and you are the last one to get the fact that you're exposed on several fronts. From a lawyer with a $20,000 gizmo for sale to a run in the mill flim flam man.

Bill B
 
docker Posted: 09-Dec-03 18:17
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Any demo has a 1 in 3 chance of producing favourable results.

So, as long 1 in 3 observers buy, the crumbling desperado is happy.
 
markhowy Posted: 10-Dec-03 22:07
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Are you on Acid Fruity?

THe system worked when the 4 came. It hit 5 in 126 spins and we did not finish on a winning number, which you would do of course in the real world!

Cloud just posted this, so it seems all the dummies trying to pull me down now have to walk painfully away with their balls between their legs!

Cloud wrote>

Hi Folks


WE can now put to sleep this Clouds account of his visit to my home!

He has just posted the following, so read carefully>
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cloud Posted: 10-Dec-03 04:07 Delete Edit

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Yes , you are absolutely right, we are feeding him , this is the only thing he is good at...,apart from speaking lewd, he really do drive you mad...
So let's feed him once more, WHERE ARE YOUR PROOF WE ARE CASINO STAFF; yes they are my email, what do they show; that we are casino staff?? HOW DO YOU COME TO THAT CONCLUSION,Paranoia with a capital P.
You talk about our shoes, Claudia cheap jewellery, imply that she was a whore, cheap car and god knows what else.
We are certainly not as ignorant as you made us up to be,IF you show that VIDEO ,will we see on it that we talked about the difference between American English and English as well as Portuguese from Portugal and the Brasilian, that's when the word WHoRE was mentionned,different meaning in the 2 countries.
IN your twisted mind, the girl was a whore.
Will we see your shaking and your sweaty forehead when question was asked about standard deviation??
Of course, we know; you were being tested;
Will we heard you saying at least half a dozen time,DON'T WORRY, because your device did not worked as it should.
By the way,look the way you were dressed,certainly not as a millionaire.
When asked about casinos in Belgium you went to, you were unable to name one, ALL ON TAPE,BUT will you see it.
You will also see that only DEE fell asleep ,no one else unless you can fall asleep standing up like a horse.
The Truth man YOU ARE EXPOSED for what you are , a Scammer and a bad one at that; 5 hits in 120odd spins,find me a permanence where you won't find 5 hits in that numbers of spins,ther will be few numbers with that numbers of hits.
your reaction show that YOU ARE RATTLED .
As I get busy soon, I certainly won't feed this crazy man anymore;
I suggest , everyone do the same.
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MARK SAYS>

One of them noticed the CCTV, so they know it was recorded, they have obviously spoken to each other, I think that maybe thats why they made a quick exist from my home, who knows?

But Lets look simply at the facts, Clound now openly admits that the system of mine produced the 5 in 126 spins, yet on previous posts claims it does not work and that I was in fact a scammer?

5 in 126 spins, placing just one chip on per spin, is 68% in favour on the exact number! This is not taking into account, the number of times it hit adjacent to this also ,the neighbours were also vastly in favour!

So he contradicts himself to the highest degree in this post, for it shows the system working as I have always claimed!

They all left on a 46 number streak, without a hit, you would always finish on a winning hit, if you have something that on average is 100% in favour!

He then goes on to write, and I quote>
find me a permanence where you won't find 5 hits in that numbers of spins'

Mark Writes>

I agree, I even posted this earlier in the week, so using this argument of clouds, how can he prove that it does not work with the same number of spins, a 126?

He claims I am a scammer, now he is agreeing that the system was doing what it should do!

That even within 126 spins, it hit 5 times? I ask you, does this not contradict his previous posts?

And for all them that was backing him up all the way, your argument has just turned into smoke!



I rest my case!

Now Whos next for some serious gambling talk or mathematics, now that this silly nonsense has being placed to sleep!

Regards

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As for you Fruity, if the computer does not predict the correct number, then how did you win all that money with it at the casinos, you add an offset, and its consistant, as consistant as when you came to my home, as consistant as when you played it in the casinos, as consistant as when the four visitors came to my home, as consistant to all the players using it around the3 world ,it was saying the actual number that came out when the four visitor were here, proof in his post above, this is the new version LOL Your way behind with the upgrades fruity and way down on your bank#!


Now lets stop the AHCOLN behavior and grow up, all of you, your just embaressing yourselves!

LOL

Mark. .
 
Fruity Posted: 10-Dec-03 22:32
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Mark you should listen to yourself because I don't think anyone else is. It's one or the other can't be both. So do I have a bugged computer like you swear by? Why is it when I said I made money that you didn't say bullshit? If it's bugged then that means MY computer doesn't work hence I CANNOT make money oh unless of course I applied my own rules like you said I did which means it's not even your system anymore then.
 
mautuat Posted: 11-Dec-03 03:12
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Mark,
Where is the VIDEO-CCTV ? Show it let's the board judge for themself.

 
markhowy Posted: 11-Dec-03 13:59
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Hey fruity

If you do not think that a program can be qwritten to overwrite the variables on your other prgram, then go and try and use it, its that simple!

Your posts are going down the same road as AHcolns, mentally degrading yourself, bu carry on!

I like the show!

Regards


Mark ,..
 
Fruity Posted: 11-Dec-03 14:52
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I've already said I'm not happy using your device in a casino environment so it doesn't bother me in the least if I have a bugged on or not but you on the other hand do.

So lets get this straight once and for all. You claim I have a bugged computer making it useless. Why don't you call me a liar when I announced that I made over £800? Well come on call me a liar maybe I might even say yes that day I was only dreaming. You can't have it both ways. It either works or it doesn't. You are the childish on. Ahcoln is the mature one because he's said he'll stop and he has. You on the other hand hurl abuse at him then apologise on the board saying come back and you two can bury the arguments and now you keep stabbing at him again? You really are sick.

3rd vote for Mark to leave comes from me. Don't you know that when the majority vote you out that maybe you're NOT RIGHT?
 
docker Posted: 11-Dec-03 22:00
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Fruity,
Why don't you ask for a refund?

Any decent system seller would gladly give you one.

How about passing on the info to Consumer Affairs I am sure they would be interested in pursuing your case, seeing that you have been ripped off.

Maybe even the tax department.

He did give you a receipt didn't he?

I know the Tax Department love to investigate these little businesses on the side.
 
markhowy Posted: 12-Dec-03 07:53
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Docker and Fruity

200 vote from worthless ignoramuses does not mean a thing, it is the quality of the vote that counts!

If it comes from people who have no knowledge of gambling, then the vote is worthless!

So you excused bigtime!

You have made the cost of the device several times over, you posted that on here!

So you have made a profit with the device!

Legally, it is me who could take you to court for defamation of character, which you have made several accounts of me that are not true, but contrued lies to several people of he board, but what would I gain, you cannot be sued , you have nothing, you do not even own a car!

And for your information docker, the system works, that why fruity did not want, or has ever asked for a refund, now he has the new program, this the case is different! Why would I give him a refund on a system that does not work now?

Your forgetting one major point here Docker, Fruity posted on here that he made several times the cost of the system, so he has not lost anything, but gained!

Both of you, your argumants are flawed and childlike, you sound like AHCOLNS shadow!

LOL

Mark
 
cloud Posted: 13-Dec-03 07:14
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TO MAD DOG
HO!
 
Fruity Posted: 13-Dec-03 20:47
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Where did you get the information that I've made several times the amount for the computer? You and 2 others know that I've lost with your computer before so don't pretend you didn't know. As for the £800 I paid more than that for it. So get your calculator if you can't work it out. You've also implied that I'm lying about the money I made with your device by carrying on to the board that I have a dudd computer so "HOW DID I MAKE THE MONEY THEN?" In theory I've claimed I made money with your device and you've called me a liar but because it's a good way of promoting your ILLEGAL device then it suits you.

I have nothing against your other purchasers but if the casino's (staff frequent this board) catch on to your device from your constant ranting and make it virtually impossible for a device player to get away with, do you really think that Mark has your best interest?
 
Fruity Posted: 13-Dec-03 22:13
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You said on this board "just come and view it and see me get 1 in 18 all day long" a group of people have done just this and reported back now why should anyone else waste their time to do the same? I would honestly give up my 307cc if I NEVER had to know such a childish liar like you mark.
 
markhowy Posted: 13-Dec-03 22:45
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Ho Fruity

You are getting really bad at bullshitting!

You posted on here your winnings and how good the system was!

firstly you paid £800 for what?

You promised to pay me £800, but never did!

You said you needed the money from your uncle to place bets with!

I said you could pay me the £800 from your winnnings, to cover myself, A timer was placed in the computer to alter the variables after a predetermined time of four weeks!

SO I will be coming down to collect the computer sometime before Christmas, as this is stolen property, you need to return it!

I will be involving the police in due course!

LOL

Mark ..
 
markhowy Posted: 13-Dec-03 22:49
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Hi Folks


It may be of interest to know, that this fruity guy has already been talking to Craig of this board and filling him in how the device works!

He has also posted here too, good job hyes not up to date with anything!

Craig broke his neck in emailing me to inform what Fruity had said, what a snake!

It looks like Fruity has gone over to the enemy, although he did mention he was going to do this, right on this board!

Some people have no morals!

Its not the damage he is attempting to do to me, but to others who have done nothing wrong, a real lowlife!

Mark. .

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Craig812 Posted: 13-Dec-03 23:18
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Mark,

Let me set the record straight!

I have had 3 e-mails from Fruity, we have not discussed how your system works! All we have done is briefly talked about the threats of violence you have made to other forum members!

If anyone would like to see these e-mails to prove what we have discussed, send me your requests to my e-mail address (below)

craig@casinounion.co.uk

Also Mark, I have not e-mailed you at all!!!! You are absolutely lying about this, show the evidence to the forum members that I have e-mailed you!!

As for going over to the enemy, what does that mean in your world? What a joke that you are talking about morals, you have none!! Forum members look through Mark's last 10 or 20 posts to see who has morals!

As for involving the police in your attempt to get back this equipment, that is really funny I can see it now, Fruity has my roulette cheating device, that doesn't work! He promised to give me £800 from his winnings from a casino, but never did!

You will be laughing stock of the police station, like what you are here! How are you going to prove he didn't pay for it originally?

Craig
 
mautuat Posted: 14-Dec-03 03:44
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Hey MARK_NO_BALL,
You are exactly what AHCOLNS called you , where is the CCTV ?
Show it or again PUT YOUR LITTLE BALL IN YOUR MOUTH and SHUT UP !
mautuat
 
Fruity Posted: 14-Dec-03 05:57
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ROFLMAO.
When I gave you that £850 in a sealed envelop I told you to open it and count it. A long while back I did mention this on the board where when I handed the cash in the envelop you didn't even open it until I asked you to. Are you going to aggree or need me to bring that old post back? So you can see I have PAID for that piece of junk. Would you have really let me leave your house if I didn't pay for your piece of crap? Would you have remained this quiet and not bring it up if I hadn't paid?

I've left the window open for any long term members here to visit me and see YOUR piece of junk for themselves. Craig doesn't seem to be interested yet alone me showing him how it works. Our emails only talk about YOU not your piece of crap. So don't carry on lying.
 
alan Posted: 14-Dec-03 11:34
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Mark,

When I first joined this BB, you were kind enough to invite me to Sheffield to view your wheel tracking device and, prove that it works.

I decline your invitation now, having witnessed the personal, offensive comments which you have made to fellow members.

You may have the holy grail of all roulette devices. However, I would expect somebody with such a product to conduct themselves in a dignified and respectful manner. Although, it appears that you have numerous books on roulette and mathematics, one book which might be of benefit to you is called "How to win friends and influence people". I get the distinct impression that this is missing from your library.
 
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HI Alan

I am not on this message board to win sales by becoming friends of people, I declined you if I remember correctly, by saying that I was not going to sell anymore roulette computers for a certain price, after this I never bothered to contact you again, proving to you that I have alot more important things to do than make imaginary friends with imaginary personalities of a message board, or sell my roulette computer to all and sundry. My life deals with real people in real life! The reason you was declined is because I believe you are casino staff, if you must know the truth!

So lets stick to the truth Alan, hers your post all that time ago>
Hi Mark,

Thank you for your reply.

I guess I don't qualify, as I didn't contact you initially, but thank you
anyway.

best regards

Alan Niel
Tel:020 8

possible adrress>

ALAN NIEL
KIPLING COURT
GREENFORD AVENUE
LONDON
W7 1LZ
020 8

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I am not stupid, I check everyone out who visits me, just thought you should know! I believe also that you are an adversary of Crai9gs, maybe from work LOL

I post here to share ideas on mathematics and gambling, and if someone wants to ask me about my roulette computer, then they can, if asked in a proper manner or discussed in a proper manner, then they will get a polite proper answer!

For the people who had the intelligence to come and view before they knocked my system, found out for themselves what I am really like, in real life! What is posted on here by me is echoes of the same nature, if there is threats, I threaten back, if there is rudness, I am rude back!

Its ashame that you cannot look through all the posts to check for yourself on the people who accuse me of threatening, for your argument would be very weak indeed. It is a good job I do not take people on here who I have not met seriously, or the clowns who visited my home last weekend, or the insane anger of fruity who was found to be a backstabber to the nth degree!

And alan, afterall, if I have the device that I have, and I invite you too my home to view it, if a few hours with someone who behaves threatening on a message board to someone who has threatened them on a message board stops you purchasing a tool that will return you 1 in 18, then the bigger fool you!

I do not always dig the people I purchase my products from, some are polite, some are not, but its about choices, sometimes you cannot go anywhere else? SO in your wisdom, where are you going to purchase such a poduct now, if say you did want one? LOL


The people who have met me in real life and purchased and use my device all have posted here to say what person I am like, what you claim from a message board is a little inaccurate, dont you think!

It takes a pretty shallow person to make up opinions from a message board post about a person thats in retaliation to threats that I have had!

This is your choice and opinion Alan, you are entilted to it, its your perrogative!

Your quote from your post>
I decline your invitation now, having witnessed the personal, offensive comments which you have made to fellow members

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Its ashame you do not practice what you preach, for this line alone is being personal to me! I find it strange that you do not look back in the posts, or ask me why I have made such replies, or questioned the personal posts of others made to me, maybe its because I did not come back to you with an oppotunity of selling you a roulette computer, maybe its because I have info that says you are possibly casino staff, you know the reply above from you is genuine!

Therefore, your opinion does not count or your comments about personal insults and threats, for you do not know the whole story, or have being bothered to even check posts on this site, next time do your homework, or simply ask why, saves embaressment in the long run!

You talk of friends, what kind of a friend, or possible future friend would post such Dross, to comment on personal comments made from only one side of an argument and in doing so, make a persional comment in the process, I do not need friends like you, thats for sure!

I suppose you will now join in collectively with the rest of the no hopers, slandering, or being personal, because you have simply nothing better to do, the first personal remark has come from you to me, you insinuate that I started something, yet it is you, you do not know all the facts!

Taking your words, lets practice what you are preaching>
I decline your invitation now, having witnessed the personal, offensive comments which you have made to fellow members

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It is me you declines to take you seriously with such remarks, you have just seriously gone down in my estimation and joined the little party who could not fight their way out of a paper bag in real life!

I feel such a great loss that I was not honoured to have a person from a message board visit me because he felt I did not show respect to fellow members who have being disrespecting me and making inaccurate comments, most of them having never visited me!

It takes a wise man to stand out from the crowd, be single minded and objective, to strife where others fear to tread, to rationalise and be logical and be indifferent to others opinions, it takes a fool to hollow with the rest of the monkeys, the same old merry agreeable tune!

Carry on

Unimpressed, I did not expect anything else!

Regards

Mark ..

 
markhowy Posted: 16-Dec-03 23:10
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By the way fruity


Where do I send the Christmas Card too?




My address again is
Francis Nguyen
35 Thrupp Close
Mitcham
Surrey
CR4 1B

Real Name

Culone Nguyen

Real address is>

40a(FLAT)
Blenheim Creasent
South Croydon
Surrey
CR2 6BN
020 868

LOL#

Mark ..


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Fruity Posted: 17-Dec-03 06:45
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HAHAHHA Mark. None of them. The first address was where I asked you to send the Disk to before doesn't mean I'm a resident there. As for that 40a flat? Well I have NO IDEA. You see next time you look in the BT directories you'd need to look under their real full name. And bloody hell if I did live at that 40a flat I'd be quite happy because South Croydon is a prosperous and wealthy area, flat or house.
Anyway what's better is you don't send me a card but send those Jamaicans round to both addresses LOL maybe they'll be so pissed off with you wasting their time that they'll come after you!

I'm also not on the register to vote so you won't find my address there either. It was so peaceful why have to stir it up again? Firstly making up emails that I supposedly sent you and putting it up when that email address didn't even exist at that time and I also didn't even know of GG.

I really can't be bothered with you anymore Mark.
 
Fruity Posted: 17-Dec-03 07:20
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Mark you are also breaking the LAW big time. There's something called the data protection act. Just because you don't care about advertising YOUR address it doesn't give you the right to give out other people's address. If you had put a correct address of my residence I would defineately take you to court. Posting a threat along with a person's address will get the police on your back. Maybe the court would like to hear and see evidence why you are so bitter. You make up lies about me all which I can counter sue with EVIDENCE. You send me threat emails again I CAN PROVE, now on a message board for all to see you have a stab at writing my address up. The emails I'm supposed to have sent you the court would laugh at because my email account didn't even exist in Nov 2002!

I'm going on holiday until Jan so I won't be here but I think that the board is more quiet when you don't post than when I don't. You've insulted and abused a lot of people on here and the general vote is you leave.

Oh you still want that boxing match? Let me know when and we can meet in Camberwell. Nice boxing ring there!
 
Craig812 Posted: 17-Dec-03 07:20
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Mark,

That is absolutely disgraceful, is there not a low you will not stoop
too? Posting peoples alleged addresses on a public forum has got be the most despicable act you can possibly do, you spoke about morals a few days ago, this is not a moral act, this is disgusting!!!

This has got to be one of the most disturbing posts I have ever seen on a public forum, his claims about his system have now taken a back seat, his threats have now taken a new and twisted direction, he claims also that the Jamaican underworld is baying for Fruity's blood, he can expect a call from the bully boys anytime now.

This very public threat to Fruity and Alan only goes to show that people should have no dealings with this utterly unscrupulous and disturbed man, he has no morals and no compunction to keep confidential information private. What a sad little individual!!!

Craig
 
markhowy Posted: 17-Dec-03 08:52
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Oh Craig

Clutching at those straws!

When did I make any threat to alan, it is you who is becoming absurd!

@Fruity

Again, wheres the threat to you with your address, first you claim it is not your address, then you claimthat I have made a threat in it, where! I recieved an email to ask where you lived by a group who purchased the computer in London, I did not give them your address, but this is genuine Fruity, so I have made no threats, these people have made the threat, I have just told you about it! This is because you claim you was going to tell the casinos how the computer worked, you posted t5his on here, so youmade the first threat, you reap what you sow KID!

Are we making things up again Fruity, sound like your trademark!

YOu rent fruity, you do not own anything!

Do you know Fruity you have made 5 times more posts aimed at me that I have at you, seems like you are the agreessor!

More than half your posts on this board (over 90)are insults and slanderous remarks made to me, does that not show what a little sad person you are!

You have been making comments against me personally for over two months now, it is you you has stired things up by backstabbing in the first place and me finding out about it!


When visiting relatives down south, only round the corner from you Fruity, I have driven past your house, and you definately live there, so whos kidding who!
LOL

Mark.






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Fruity Posted: 17-Dec-03 09:13
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LOL very amusing indeed but this will have to be my last message until I come back from holiday.

You ask where's the threat? Well if people on this board want to see the threat then let me know or email me and I shall show you. Each time I post it on this site it gets deleted. You've made no threats? What does this imply then?

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I make one phonecall, and the team of Jamaicans that are using this system will be round to your address to straighten you up, I have had a serious phone call this morning from them, wanting your address! I have have told them that I cannot find it at the moment, so the ball is in your court! I would love to do it myself you little wanker, but as you are such a thin streak of piss, your not worth it!

I shall post the Threat again on the board but if it get's deleted before anyone reads it just contact me.

And as for the comment "YOu rent fruity, you do not own anything!" Well ok if you say so. I don't mind you or others thinking that of me. You think people respect you more if you have money?

So you've driven past my house? Well why didn't you post the correct address? You said yourself that the South Croydon place is a flat and you know something the 35 place is also a flat so how you can drive past it and see it well.... Funny that you can say someone is lying about where they live. Why don't you come to those places you've posted above and see for yourself who lives there before TELLING me that I live there. LOL

Anyway to the rest of the board if anyone's actually reading this thread anymore. Happy Xmas and New Year.
 
howyrules Posted: 17-Dec-03 09:59
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SHut up the system works!

Read it and weap
 
Craig812 Posted: 17-Dec-03 10:05
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Hello Mark,

The threat to Alan comes from the fact that you have also posted his alleged address on this forum, these thugs that you claim to know can just as easily go after him as well!! You are one sad person!

Also by publically posting fruity's address here, you are aiding some people to go out and do physical violence on him, that is what is called aiding and abetting, you are breaking the law!

Fruity has also raised the fact about the Data Protection Act, he is a customer of yours, in the UK it is illegal to to distribute confidential material to a third party without the express permission of the person involved. Fruity has not given you permission to publish his details on a public forum (thrid party), if he makes a complaint you can be arrested and charged for breaking the DP Act.

Mark thinks he is above the law, he has made his threats be known here, anyone who happens to disagree with him is liable to be threatened, it is quite plain that he is using the electoral register here in the UK, to search out people with names that have been in contact with him, hence the possible address of Alan!

He is posting addresses here of people who quite possibly have no knowledge of him, this discussion or casinos, what he is doing is beyond the pale, and quite possibly illegal!

Also what is the purpose of all this? Why is this relevant to Roulette computers? He is always trying to steer the talk away from his device, what is the purpose of this? If the eqiupment worked the discussion should be only on that! No diversions!! Mark offers nothing that proves his system works, he will no doubt contend that I have not seen his system working, so how can I judge it? But I say Fruity has, and he says it does not work the way advertised!

By the way Mark, we are all waithing with baited breath for your CCTV footage, where is it?

Craig
 
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Mark,

I am not casino staff and, haven't been for 30 years. Surely, logic should tell you that, if I was, I'd be itching to see your device.

I came to this BB, recently, with an open mind. As you will see from earlier posts which I made, my opinion was quite biased in your favour.

However, the animosity which you show towards those, that might disagree with you is distasteful. You have now directed some of this animosity in my direction, mainly on the basis that I declined an invitation to see your device in operation.

I have read the previous posts from people who doubt you but, it is you that retaliates in a vitriolic, offensive manner. There are always people that doubt any invention's effectiveness. If an invention works, much of the subsequent work is more PR than anything else. It seems that the words "public relations" are an anathema to you.

I might be a fool , in your eyes, to decline your invitation but, this is my decision. I have never derided you or cast doubt on your method or integrity. Therefore, I feel that your hostility towards me is totally unnecessary.

Incidentally, the address you have posted, for me, on this BB, is
incorrect.

Merry Xmas
 
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You are such an idiot Craig. You are talking about the things you have no idea. Why the hell are you talking so much about Mark's system and nothing else??

It is so evident that you want to discredit his system because you are casino staff!!!

If someone ruins this board then it is you!!! You are connected with the casino people. Do you think that people will come here and talk about their winning systems or ideas if they know that casino staff is reading this board??? Do you think that we are fools?

You have your own forum, so go there, you asshole.


I am only curious about one thing, Why the hell you did not ask Docker for his gift???

I know, because you only care about Mark's system,
something that really works!!!

 
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You are such an idiot Craig. You are talking about the things you have no idea. Why the hell are you talking so much about Mark's system and nothing else??

It is so evident that you want to discredit his system because you are casino staff!!!



It's really something how Frnaki's English has improved so dramtacially. Must be getting lessons from Alison G. For crying out loud give it up Mark. You're a sick puppy.

Bill B
 
docker Posted: 17-Dec-03 19:13
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"Do you think that people will come here and talk about their winning systems or ideas if they know that casino staff is reading this board??? Do you think that we are fools?"



Hmmm?


 
markhowy Posted: 17-Dec-03 20:08
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Hi Folks

Docker wrote>

Do you think that people will come here and talk about their winning systems or ideas if they know that casino staff is reading this board??? Do you think that we are fools?"



Hmmm?

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Mark writes>

Its a bigger fool that thinks he has a mechanical advantage over the casinos with roulette especially!

AN even bigger fool if you think casino staff do not read this board!

But you take the biscuit if you think the casino staff would ever take you seriously with your past and present claims Docker, they will definately be skipping your posts!

LOL

Mark. .
 
markhowy Posted: 17-Dec-03 20:12
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The plot thickens!

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Mark,

I am not casino staff and, haven't been for 30 years. Surely, logic should tell you that, if I was, I'd be itching to see your device.


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Your not casino staff, and have not for thirty years, so you were casino staff, you should be more careful what you write alan, your partially giving the game away and that what I found on you saying you are linked with the casinos now looks justified!

I rest my case!

LOL

Mark. .
 
docker Posted: 17-Dec-03 21:25
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I wrote Hmmm?

The rest was copy & paste!
 
markhowy Posted: 17-Dec-03 22:26
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I know Docker

Your point being?

You comment on Franki, but you are claiming winning systems, if they work, you are exposing yourself to casino staff, but more than likely they will not work, I would put money on it!

So although you will be ignored by the casino staff claiming mechancial systems, if you did have one, you would not be posting under their noses now would you, unless you was a fool of course, if not a fool, then a scammer or maybe not that bright, you get the point now Docker?

Not difficult when it is explained to you in simple terms, is it!

LOL

Mark ..



 
Craig812 Posted: 19-Dec-03 07:17
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Hi,

I address this to Mark, Franki, and howeyrules!

For my mind you are all one and the same person, it is very sad that you must backup your claims by using aliases, you have a long track record of doing it! Just a few of your other aliases are below:

Cristov
Cibby
Alison G
Brian Davis
Liam Swain

As for ruining this board Mark, you are the one abusing forum members, you are the one threatening them, you are the one filling this forum with useless posts, so who is ruining this forum?

Also I have lots of friends in the casino industry, thatís what 16 years working in it does! So in a sense I do have connections with casino people, but I do not have any connection with the companies themselves, why would I? When you leave employment of a company, you do not continue in any function there!

Mark you appear to think that the casino industry is all one entity, it is not! There are hundreds of casino companies in the world, most have no connection what so ever with each other!

You tell me to go to my forum a*#'#%@e!, I didn't know this was your forum? Though sometimes it does appear to be! Also I am a member of this forum, so I have just as much right as your self to post here!

I didn't ask for Docker's system, because I don't want it at this time, if I did I would have asked! I notice under your Franki & howeyrules alias you have also not asked for it, but you wouldn't would you, because you have asked for it under your own name!

Your physic abilities are truly remarkable Mark, fancy you knowing that Alan was casino staff! Even though it has been 30 years since he left the business! So by your terms anyone employed in the industry previously, is a casino spy out to discredit you!

Your conspiracy theories sounds like something from Hollywood, your assumed facts are nothing more than fantasy, and your basis that everyone who disagrees with you are either casino staff or people in cohorts with them are just ridiculous.

You seem to rest your case quite often Mark, shame you can't rest it with proof that your system works! Talking about proof, where is your CCTV footage?

Craig
 
Craig812 Posted: 19-Dec-03 09:18
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Hello,

Before Mark or anyone else replies to my last post, can you please read the following terms of use (TOU), you all agree to when you sign up for Gambler's Glen!

All pay attention to (i) & (ii)

The constant use of foul language breaks the TOU you sign up too! Can you please conduct your posts fitting adults, not children!

Mark as well as the above pay attention to (iii), (vii), (viii) & (iv)

You appear to be advertising your wares here, according to the Gambler's Glen TOU, you breaking one of the fundemental rules of the forum!

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alan Posted: 19-Dec-03 09:59
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Mark,

I'm going to reiterate my previous comments, just in case they didn't register with you the first time.

I am not, repeat not casino staff, nor do I have any professional connection to any casino. My only connection with casinos now is as a player.

You may recall that I mentioned, in one of my first posts, that I had worked in a casino many years ago (now 33 years). You might, also, recall, that in that post I was in debate with Craig and actually SUPPORTING YOUR ARGUMENT.

You may be a maths or physics genius but, when it comes to dealing with people you are completely clueless.
 

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