Posted by mark on April 30, 19102 at 18:25:47:
if you want all of Izaks systems for $20 dollars email me at markanthony18@hotmail.com
These add up to a figure of around $4000 if you were to purchase them of him at 'Letstalkgambling.com' Be careful of this site, its a front to selling illegal systems. Just had a few emails sent either way from Izak
The comments in gambler Glen are from you and your cronnies, thats how you know its there! I have never had this critisism before on any other sites in 3 years of advertising nearly!
You cannot obtain a patent by the way on your methods, they do not follow any established laws of mathematics and all claims must be true! A pattent attorney deals with trademarks, patents and copyrights, the name patent attorney does not mean that they deal in just patents!
So again you claim that my system is illegal to sell, it is not illegal to sell anywhere( IT IS ILLEGAL TO USE , NOT SELL IN THE STATE OF NEVADA). ARE YOU COMPLETELY IGNORANT!!! Again stated with no factual proof!! You are just another joke IZAK!!! A Cheat and a liar, how to obtain money by deception , and robbing innocent people of their hard earned money and feeding them false hope. So people who post in forums are losers, maybe the people who post there might like to see a copy of your post to me, and what you really think of them!. Are they poor loses that you claim, or loyal customers of yours, make your mind up IZAK, your making a fool out of yourself, digging a deeper grave! Shows your dishonesty, not mine Izak, you are making a fool out of yourself. Someone told me that you were intelligent!!!!
Your proposition was nothing other than an attempt to frighten me somehow into submission!!!
Now I will hit you with everything I have, the money , the time, the enthusiasm, and a good number of employees who I can say are really loyal. Will start by posting all my SYSTEMS FOR FREE ON EVERY SITE, WITH REFERENCE TO THEM BEEN CLAIMED TO BE YOURS!!! tomorrow!
Then go ahead with all the emails my staff have legally prepared to forward to the necessary departments, the police, tax man etc!
How do you think I really got your systems IZAK, HAVE YOU NOT GUESSED YET!!!
I have my money from my inventions IZAK, and my gambling, so I have nothing to lose, only gain in the pleasure of destroying a conman!!!
Don't even bother to apologise, you will be wasting your time, I will write to you in jail, as I already have proof of you not paying your taxes, its easy to get, cost me £2 for the info!!!You will be able to write to me with a system of progression on who is going to have your arse in the showers!
Read it and weep sucker!!!!
kind regards
Mark Anthony Howe esq.
>From: "Izak Matatya"
>To: "mark anthony"
>Subject: Re: Forum etc.
>Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 17:41:35 -0400
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>So Mark, if you put a patent on the systems I wrote, you are saying that they become YOUR systems. That still doesn't change my opinion that you are dishonest. On the contrary, it enhances it. Just because you are proficient in the legality of the copyright issues does not discredit me for all the efforts I put into the research of those systems and to have them available for my loyal customers who appreciate the kind of work I do.
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>My forum will be closed in order to protect it from dirt like you. If you wish go ahead and post everything and prove to the rest of the world that you are dirt. I saw the comments against you in Gambler's Glen. That doesn't show a good profile of yours. By the way, people who post in forums are nothing but losers. People who win, don't waste their times in looking for free stuff in the forums or discussing things forever with no results.
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>I proposed a peaceful solution to resolve either one of our problems if any. But you chose to fight. I will defend myself against your dirt in any way I can. You yourself just admitted that it is illegal to use your device. Why would you then promote such a thing, to get people arrested? Another proof that you are nothing but dirt. You are very hateful and people hate you for what you are.
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>The world would be a much better place if there were less of your type. I wish you failure in all your misdemeanours.
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>I have nothing else to say to you. You have lost a potentially good friend and made an enemy instead. Congratulations.
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>Izak Matatya
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> From: mark anthony
> To: webmaster@letstalkwinning.com
> Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 5:12 PM
> Subject: Re: Forum etc.
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> Hi Izak
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> I had comments made against my system that it is illegal to sell, it is only illegal in the state of Nevada to use, not sell! Which I have always told people who have asked about my system. These comments are opinions from fellow gamblers, not the truth. I am allowed to defend myself in such a forum against these accusations. I can ignore these comments, if I wish, which I normally chose to do!
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> I have got a geniune winning system, that happens to be totally legal to sell, everywhere in the world, even in the state of Nevada,where it is legal to sell it( but not to use it). I have my lawyers on this at present, and will update you with the legal wrangles of the different states and countries.
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> Now my lawyers catagorically state that you are claiming to sell something that will improve people's chances of winning or even slowing the process of losing, which we both know is complete rubbish! You are obtaining money by deception, and I will soon follow up some legal documentation refering to the sale of get rich schemes using claims that are misleading, and very inaccurate! YOU are breaking the law!
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> Regards copyright infringement and intellectual property rights, you are speaking to the right person, because this is my line of work, my main line! Firstly you have no intellectual property rights whatsoever, for to claim copyrights legally, you must file the work as your own with a pattent attorney, a legal witness is needed to prove the original author of the work, should it be regards written text, even if it is fictional, which could only be your claim. Just plainly putting a copyright symbol on your work, it far from adaquate( what prority date could you possibly give it), and what if someone had just done the same as you only weeks after, somewhere else in the world, and also just placed a copyright symbol on it, it should be legally yours, but you could not prove it!?.Also your method mentioned in your text would need to be mathematically correct, your claims substatiated by obvious claims regards probability, number theory ,and in its nature ,explanatory to someone who works in that field.etc. This is if you are referring that your methodologies of gambling are protected, which I can assure you, they are definately not. It is also in most states of america, and most of Europe, illegal to make such claims without some filing date. you can be ordered to pay up to $40,000 dollars compensation for illegally stated claims such as yours. The reason been is to protect the original author legally.
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> If I was now to file your(Mine) systems legally now, say that I divulged them on the net some years ago, paid for filing, even in the UK, and I got the priority date, the systems become mine, because legally ,you cannot prove that these systems are yours , or other authors. This is why inventor's are told to not divulge their systems to anyone until a patent is granted! So maybe I can file your( MINE REALLY) systems with my patent attorney!! I can do this online now!
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> With regards to you inciting that I am dishonest, this is defirmation of character and slander, but I am a big boy, I can take it! I do have my systems, the ones you claim I have obtained from you, but how can you prove this ridiclous claim???
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> A legal agreement in any state and most countries can either be by implication( implying that there is some method), by verbal, or by written agreement!
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> This I did not mind, what you was doing, as it has no affect on me at all. But in due course you then remove comments made by me, but not chip, and state that I cannot sell illegal systems on your forum. It sounds like it was just undermining your systems, and you was not going to allow someone on your forums to sell something that had some substance and merit, that it basically worked!. It is your forum, granted, but for you to publically state that it is illegal, and yet again in this email, to sell the system is wrong, you are personally undermining my system to everyone that it is available to, WORLDWIDE!!!. So I showed you that I could easily do the same as you, with your systems, but this time I was legally correct in stating that these were rubbish and illegal!!!
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> Now if I see any of my systems advertised on your notice boards, the ones jokingly you claim are yours and others, I will sue you, even if it is sold under a different name! I can do this legally, check it out with your solicitor! If I have the file dates, I own the intellectual property!
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> I walk and stand on people who claim statements that are to frighten,bully, imtimadate, and scare people into bowing to there ways. Your forum is yours, but so are your comments and your actions against me, not the others who incited some of the rubbish that went on that forum. I am a very fair person but to allow people like BC, DJ, Chip onto your forum, BC constantly slagging me off, yet not removed before you decided to remove me, is beyond fairness! Chip seems to annoy everyone, and destroys any chance of you having a forum that is open to discussion on gambling topics. So my thought is this, you make a public apology to me on the forum, bar BC, DJ and chip,stating that it is not illegal to sell my system, let me advertise there. And not inform the tax man of your profits, the department of fair trading, the police, and I will allow you the use of MY NEW SYSTEMS THAT HAVE JUST BEEN FILED WITH THE PATENT OFFICE IN THE UK AND EACH STATE OF THE USA AND CANADA FOR AS LONG AS WISH!
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> Don't, I repeat DON'T, send me your opinions, and try to BULLY me into some sort of agreement with you. You are in no position to haggle or barter with me, believe me. DON'T send me emails that are not apparently factual to even the most lowest forms of intelligence, sunstantiate your claims, I would like to see these intellectual property claims you make, I will be pasing these claims onto the goverment department of registry designs and intellectual property( You may be asked to pay the $40,000 fines, if this is not the case). I can also post your so called systems for sale( mine I mean-oops) all over the net for free!!! And I can still post in your forums! I have the money, the time and intellect to teach you a lesson in life, just because you are on the internet, dosn't mean that you can bully and control people's life.
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> JUST GO AHEAD AND TRY ME, I WILL GO ALL THE WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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> kind regards
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> Mark Anthony Howe esq.
> >From: "Izak Matatya"
> >To:
> >Subject: Forum etc.
> >Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 13:13:24 -0400
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> >Hello Mark,
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> >You have caused the shutting down of my discussion forum as you were posting
> >various systems belonging to different authors thus infringing copyright
> >laws and violating intellectual property rights.
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> >A few days before, you were promoting the selling of an illegal device for
> >$20,000 also in my forum. I had to delete those messages as you were
> >breaking the law again.
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> >You are not my customer, yet you seem to have copies of my systems.
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> >All the above show that you are not an honest person.
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> >What are your intentions? And what is it that you want from me and my site?
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> >If you had a bad experience with any of my systems, let me know about it. I
> >have given refunds to people who happened not to have success with them.
> >Since you have the systems for free, there is no refund you can request.
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> >The systems are there to increase chances of winning. There is no gurantee
> >that people will always win using them. Customers appreciate the efforts
> >put in research and like to exchange ideas. If they have any positive or
> >negative comments about them, they are free to email me or post their
> >comments in the forum.
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> >I have not done anything illegal. My site is very informative and useful.
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> >If you just want to be against me and want to damage my business, I have
> >more reasons to do so with your business, unless we can come to agreeable
> >terms. I would like to be able to reinstate the forum, if you don't post
> >any illegal items nor post systems for free. In return I will not mention
> >anything against you in any institution.
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> >Let me know if those terms are agreeable to you or is there anything else
> >you would like to discuss.
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> >Izak Matatya IZAK if anyones interested what he really thinks of people who post on His system. I am going to show you what this guy is reall like. Read the following>